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From: NOrJUNKsEMAILk@nojunkemail.net (R. S. K.)
Subject: Re: Help: TELNET/K95 - Atten J.Altman
Date: 19 Jun 1999 10:40:06 PDT
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Jeffrey Altman (jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: In article <7keio5$hr3@chronicle.concentric.net>,
: R. S. K. <See end of message> wrote:
: : I am having difficulties useing K95 as a telnet client to one particular
: : server, and am at a loss.
: Is this host on the public Internet or behind a firewall?
: If on the internet please post the host.domain or IP address and
: port number.
It's on the public internet:
linex3.linex.com [port] 5000 [IP 206.54.38.11]
if you'd like to try it yourself. You don't need to have an account
to see the effect I speak of--just attempt to log in.
: sounds like the host is negotiating BINARY mode. Or is at least
: using BINARY mode.
Perhaps; I think I tried changing the mode to all possible alternatives
of NVT and BINARY, and got the same result in all.
: no clue
I *THINK* I've seen the same thing in the past at one or two other
sites--I know it's a problem that OTHER users of the site in question
have had; it doesn't happen only in K95, either--all windows telnet
emulators show the same behavior.
: What happens if you instruct K95 to use raw mode
: SET HOST <host> <port> /RAW
Same effect--except that now, the "N" that replaced the character(s)
I type is visible to the right of the character(s) I type.
: I think you will need to provide more information about the host
: before we will be able to proceed.
Well, now you've got the site and port, and can try it yourself.
I'm pretty sure it's something the remote site is doing improperly;
but I'd like to know what that is, if possible (if for no other reason
than educating myself), and if there IS a way to use Kermit's rich set
of options to get around the problem. I'm certain this isn't a bug
or defect in K95.
I must say that K95 was, for me, the end of a very long and very
frustrating search for a telnet client on Windoze that would NOT
cause me to tear my hair out with anger. It's one of the few
Windoze programs I feel I can trust. The one "enhancement" I would
like to see to console mode is a "chat" interface that isolates the
keyboard input in its own area, at the bottom, and sends it to the
remote host when Enter is struck. I mention this only because you
are clearly on the development team and have input on such matters.
It's the sort of interface that many of the old telecom packages
had, optionally, and there are some telnet sites for which it is
useful. (Alternatively, if you have a kermit script that accomplishes
this purpose, I'd like a copy.) For MUD's, MOO's, etc., it is very
helpful.
I feel intense gratitude to people such as those in the Kermit
project, who are the last few around that keep the computer in its
place as a TOOL that obeys my commands, rather than a troublesome,
smart-aleck cross between a video-game and a TV set! God bless
all of you!--I mean it! I can't tell you how often Kermit (in its
various ports) has "saved my life" and rescued data which everybody
else, in the army of point-and-click dummies, thought was lost forever.
Pardon my gushing--I wasn't expecting an answer from someone on the
development team, and I've been bottling up my admiration for a long
time.
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